S60 Open to new features

I would really like to use the accelerometer if there were a Java API.

Even if it were a "Nokia only" API. It was the same situation with the SMS API in the early Java phones. (I remember my old 3410. But after a firmware update I had the real WMA API ... but the Nokia API was very similar.)

So please Nokia: Make the cool features of your upcoming phones available to Java developers.

Björn

Great idea! Why not add Bluetooth multiplayer support so you can have light-sabre battles - complete with vibration effect when the virtual sabres hit each other!

I wonder if there's an opportunity here to collaborate with Nintendo and their Wii console here? AFAIK its controllers communicate with it via Bluetooth. Maybe S60 phones with 3D sensorts could link up and act as extra controllers and/or download mini-games to take with you when you leave home!

Thanks - nice ideas, although I have some doubts about the feasibility of Nintendo cooperation here.

I knew the Nintendo thing would be a long-shot. But hey - one can dream, right?

^_^

this is stylez mobile
and more features& design verynice my small suggetion for u u are arrange backlight in nokia lable(means ur logo)

thaking you sir,

So has any one made it yet?

If so has anyone got a link for it!

Im dying for it, itll be great fun!!

Thanks G.

Ok, so I made an effort. The latency is quite bad and the gesture recognition I'm using is very very basic but it's still cool! It was written with Python for S60...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBAE1n9utSI

So where's the download then dude?

Wow! Cool! What did you use for sound output? Sounds pretty smooth.

The download...hmmm, Ill work on it. The trouble is that it uses a couple of custom python extensions, one for the audio and one for vibration (yeah it has vibro feedback too that i forgot to mention ;). So it's a bit difficult for me to just to hand them to people 1. because it's not complete yet and 2. they were coded by other people in my research group.

but as I say ill work on it...

Jukka, the sound is generated from our python extension which I believe uses the native symbian audio. Allows much more creativity than the standard audio python package.

i fully satisfye

icant understood my mobile5500

hi,
where can i find a code example in python that utilize the accelerometer extension?
no need to be a fancy app, simple example will just do

thanks

After the release of the nokia Accelerometer API for the Nokia N95 I knocked up this light sabre application for the N95 :

http://www.zoeandgraham.co.uk/lightsabre/LightSabre_S60_3_X_v_1_0_0.sisx

You'll need to install the Acceletometer API first:

http://research.nokia.com/files/N95_RD_Accelerometer.zip

To turn on the sabre press the main ok / fire button then swing the phone, press again to turn off.

First version so comments bugs welcome....

Graham,

I tried to install the files, and the Accelerometer was already installed, but when I tried to install the light sabre app, I get a popup that says "Unable to Install".

Any help is appreciated, I'd like to feature this on my blog, Symbian-Guru.com. Feel free to post a fix here, or email me guru(a)symbian-guru(dot)com

Posted by: Ricky Cadden | November 10, 2007 09:29 PM

Sorry about that I make the version in the sis 0.1 before release (from 1.0 default) the installer didn't like it :( , try again from http://www.zoeandgraham.co.uk/lightsabre/LightSabre_S60_3_X_v_1_0_0.sisx

You may need to clear you're browser cache to get the new version as it has the same name as the old one.

I installed as directed but got nothing when swinging (and shaking) the phone. Any one else had it working?

I've some problem with this app: i've installed it, but it's not working.
I didn't be able to launch it, pushing the center button nothing happens...

I've some problem with this app: i've installed it, but it's not working.
I didn't be able to launch it, pushing the center button nothing happens...

Once you start the app you need to

"To turn on the sabre press the main ok / fire button then swing the phone, press again to turn off."

Next version will have a menu option and on screen instruction to press ok/confirm to start

Nice one Graham!
...now if only I had an N95...

Quote: Once you start the app you need to

"To turn on the sabre press the main ok / fire button then swing the phone, press again to turn off."

That's what I did but nothing happened. I'm assuming when you swing the phone there is supposed to be some sound but no matter how many times I tried pressing the centre button there was nothing.

Just found some info on another site and you have to install both bits of software on the phone memory, not a memory card. Mine now works.

Hmmm not sure why you need to install on phone memory, there's no drive hard coding. I'll see if I can fix for the next version.

thats nice! ;)

Hi Graham! Nice work!
Do you think is possible to make a version working for the Nokia 5500?
Would be great!

How do i get it to work on my 5500??

Loaded it onto it but it, the options there but when i go to start it nothing happens!!

Any ideas??

Thanks G.

Hi Glen,

I've no idea if it'll work on a 5500 it uses the N95 Accelerometer API.

If any one can point me at the Accelerometer API for the 5500 I'll create a version for it as well.

/Graham

Great work Graham! I cant wait the next version. :)

Posted by: Simcard | November 12, 2007 10:59 PM

Don't know if it's right what you need but maybe you can have a look at http://www.forum.nokia.com/info/sw.nokia.com/id/4284ae69-d37a-4319-bdf0-d4acdab39700/Sensor_plugin_S60_3rd_ed.html
Hope you can do a 5500 version of it.

Ok cool thanks Dario , I'm working on a new version that'll hopefully be more responsive (using a different media player API) and have flashing green screen.

I'll try using this new API instead if I can for the next version.

Cheers

Graham

Nice one guys!

Keep up the good work Graham!

Am looking forward to it!

Thanks G.

Hi All,

New version 1.1 of Light Sabre

New features:

- No lag at all when swinging.
- No pause in between sabre hum when idle
- Light Sabre Green light emulator (tm)
- Text that says 'Press ok to start'

http://www.zoeandgraham.co.uk/lightsabre/LightSabre_S60_3_X_v_1_1.sisx

If I get time this week I'll look at using the sensor API so it works on both 5500 & N95.

Cheers

Graham

Graham,

Major improvement over the previous version, nice one!

A couple of thoughts if you do another version.

1. Any way of keeping the screen lit when in use, like when watching a video clip?

2. Can the software distinguish between a swing an sudden stop? If so could the clash sound only be used for this rather than when swinging?

Still a great app that has people in the pub wanting to have a go!

Cheers

Great work Graham! I must admit that it was really funny, in a dorky way, to play around with your Light Sabre. Moreover, it's a great eye-opener about the technical possibilities of an accelerometer.

> 2. Can the software distinguish between a swing an sudden stop?
> If so could the clash sound only be used for this rather than when swinging?

I second that.

Just been pointed to this site after posting a wish list for the N95 lightsabre over on Allaboutsymbian. As this seems to be the more regular spot, I'll reporduce it here.
1. Volume control. Any chance of any option to quieten it down a little? Whilst full volume is great in some/most situations, there are times when a little less would be good (my office for one!)
2. "Impact" detection. ie sudden stops result in the impact noise rather than randomly introduced into the mix
3. Light colour choice, option for red, green, blue, depending on your fancy/allegiance.

But appart from that, top app, well done and thanks

Options continued....

Another one : Have the text disappear off the screen once the lightsabre is activated.

Hey leave him alone until hes finished the 5500 version!

We asked first! (lol)

:-)

Thanks G.

Although you N95 guys are kinda beta testing it for the rest of us!

If we're lucky we'll get the bug free option eneabled polished version!

Here's hoping Graham! ;-)

Thanks G.

Hi,

Ok new release this is a kinda Beta release V1.2

o Uses sensor API 'should' work on 5500 & N95 (please can someone here check I haven't got a 5500 )
o More Vrumms less Tishes
o Press left for medium vol right for Max vol
o Press up for dark side , down for light side
o Tweaks to sensitivity

http://www.zoeandgraham.co.uk/lightsabre/LightSabre_S60_3_X_v_1_2.sisx

Feedback welcome especially if it works on 5500, the sensors API requires you to supply a sensor id to match the right sensor (accelerometer) from CRRSensorApi::FindSensorsL but the supplied accelerometer id 0x10273024 doesn't match the N95 id. So I mach on sensor name which in the N95 is "RotSensor" hope it's the same on the 5500 any nokia guys here?

Cheers

Graham

ps. Thanks to everyone for the suggestion improvements :)

it don't work with my 5500. I've installed LightSabre, but it's not working.
I didn't be able to launch it.

candre

Works in N95 8GB :)

Graham, the name is different in 5500, I noticed that in PyS60 documentation. Does this help : http://wiki.forum.nokia.com/index.php/N95_sensor

Works in N95 8GB :) Anyone tried with N82?

Hi Graham.

It all looks great!

Options work well!

Only 1 problem, no movement detection, just humms!

Oh and can we get the colours solid as the flashing hurts my eyes! ;-)

Ill play around some more an get back to you!

Thanks G.

Hi Graham.

It all looks great!

Options work well!

Only 1 problem, no movement detection, just humms!

Oh and can we get the colours solid as the flashing hurts my eyes! ;-)

Ill play around some more an get back to you!

Thanks G.

Hi Graham.

It all looks great!

Options work well!

Only 1 problem, no movement detection, just humms!

Oh and can we get the colours solid as the flashing hurts my eyes! ;-)

Ill play around some more an get back to you!

Thanks G.

Hi Graham.

It all looks great!

Options work well!

Only 1 problem, no movement detection, just humms!

Oh and can we get the colours solid as the flashing hurts my eyes! ;-)

Ill play around some more an get back to you!

Thanks G.

Hi Graham.

It all looks great!

Options work well!

Only 1 problem, no movement detection, just humms!

Oh and can we get the colours solid as the flashing hurts my eyes! ;-)

Ill play around some more an get back to you!

Thanks G.

Hi Graham.

It all looks great!

Options work well!

Only 1 problem, no movement detection, just humms!

Oh and can we get the colours solid as the flashing hurts my eyes! ;-)

Ill play around some more an get back to you!

Thanks G.

Doesn't work on my 5500 neither...

Sorry Tommi didnt mean to post so many times!

It kept giving me errors and telling me to try again!

Thanks G.

Sorry didnt mean to post so many times!

It kept giving me error message and telling me to try again!

Thanks Jukka :

"The UID of the sensor is 0x303E. This UID can be used to get the call back notifications about the movement. The following link, sensor example, has the example for 5500 sensor.The UID of the 5500 sensor is 0x10273024"

I got 0x303E on the N95 so 0x10273024 should match the 5500, hope the Ids for sensors stay consistent for future phone...

I'll make a quick update this evening that includes both UIDs.

Hi Glen, have you got an N95? do other accelerometer apps work? plus have you got the latest firmware this uses an inbuilt API rather than the add on sis for the older versions of sabre.

/Graham

Thanks Jukka :

"The UID of the sensor is 0x303E. This UID can be used to get the call back notifications about the movement. The following link, sensor example, has the example for 5500 sensor.The UID of the 5500 sensor is 0x10273024"

I got 0x303E on the N95 so 0x10273024 should match the 5500, hope the Ids for sensors stay consistent for future phone...

I'll make a quick update this evening that includes both UIDs.

Hi Glen, have you got an N95? do other accelerometer apps work? plus have you got the latest firmware this uses an inbuilt API rather than the add on sis for the older versions of sabre.

/Graham

Hi Graham.

I've got a 5500!

Ive never updated the firmware on it!

Other apps work fine Grove Lab etc.

Any ideas?

Thanks G.

Hi, Graham !

I'm Samir, developer of rotateMe and Nokmote.

Congratulations for your great and funny app!

What do you think about activating/desactiving the sabre by opening/closing the slide ?

Regards,
Samir.

Great to see this update. Thanks. Thought you might like to know that this app is the subject of heated discussion over at allaboutsymbian, with many suggestions (some dubious ;-) )

thread link http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66474

"The UID of the sensor is 0x303E. This UID can be used to get the call back notifications about the movement. The following link, sensor example, has the example for 5500 sensor.The UID of the 5500 sensor is 0x10273024"

I got 0x303E on the N95 so 0x10273024 should match the 5500, hope the Ids for sensors stay consistent for future phone..."

To graham :

Please don't use the 0x303E on the N95 because it only detect 4 position : device is bottom , top , left or right !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

N95 doesn't support yet officialy the API sensor of the 5500 :( YOU MUST USE the Plugin api and the previous (look at the MovingBall example source code for understand how it works ...)

If you use 0x303E it won't work at all :( :(
"Note that with N95 you can only get one sensor and it gives only 4 different values (0/90/180/270), whereas with 5500 you get lot more information values for X,Y and Z axes "

http://wiki.forum.nokia.com/index.php/N95_sensor

Keep the good work
May the force be with you :)

Thanks

to graham and samir:

I had the same idea : it's easy but not documented
When you move the slide you receive key events.
Here are my results with (keycode , scancode) :

You can detect 4 movements of the slide but not the current status of the slide on N95 :(

Begin from N95 slide close (in my pocket !)

1° Slide is opened (keyboard is visible) (EKeyDevice4=63558,EStdKeyDevice4=168

2° Slide is closed (keyboard disappear)
(EKeyDevice5=63559,EStdKeyDevice5=169

Begin from N95 slide close (in my pocket !)
3° Slide to Media player (media keys are visible)
(EKeyDevice8=63562,EStdKeyDevice8=172

4° Slide to close (return to my pocket !)
(EKeyDevice9=63563,EStdKeyDevice9=173

Keep up the good work samir
I'm waiting for your cool apps soon :)

If you are programming with PyS60 you can found
aXYZ for using accelerator with N95 and Plugin from NRC

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=132176

Cyke64

Hi Cyke64

Version 1.2 already does :) it uses the sensor API and I check for the name "RotSensor" which I assume is == the id 0x303E.

It seems to work ok for my needs , i.e still makes swinging sounds.

The algorithm I use for swinging is very very simple it just looks at the delta of the x + y + z of the current swing versus the current callback if it's > a certain value then vrummm. So simply changing the position and getting callbacks is probably enough plus one version should work on both phones.

I'll update with both UIDs tonight.

/Graham

Hi Graham ,

If you use sensor API you get only one value with N95
x value whick can be 0 , 90 , 180 or 270 and Y is always -1 and Z is always -1.
So you lose precision in delta value I think

What do you think of that ?

Cyke64

Hi Samir and Cyke64 , thanks for the tips.

Version 1.2 on the N95 does suck a bit (not as responsive and vrumms on angle change), you're right its not the velocity anymore but the angle of the phone as you said Cyke64 :( mind you it's was a BETA release.

Okkkay two different incomatible APIs , I'm going to have to refactor out the acceleromter stuff into 2 seperate dlls one for N95 and one for sensor API and create two seperate version of sabre linking to each relevant dll. Grrrrrr

Eventually when that's done I'll use your key code s Cyke for the slider open vrum cool idea :) , Samir you're apps look cool too a lot more useful than mine, look forward to the signed version so I can play with it.

Cheers

Graham

Hi,

New release with various small new features, sorry no 5500 version at the moment it's going to be a hassle for me to support as there isn't a common API.

/Graham

Light Sabre V1.3
================
N95 series only,
please ensure you have the N95 Acceleromter sis file installed
from http://research.nokia.com/files/N95_RD_Accelerometer.zip

New Features:
o Opening and closing Slider turns sabre on and off
o Press any number key for sabre hit
o More fx samples for swings
o More Vrumms less Tishes
o Press left for medium vol right for Max vol
o Press up for dark side , down for light side
o Back on the old N95 acceleromter API so more sensitive again. (sorry no 5500)

Download from:

http://www.zoeandgraham.co.uk/lightsabre/LightSabre_S60_3_X_v_1_3.sisx

How about N93, does it work?

Hi graham is this any help for the 5500 version?

http://www.forum.nokia.com/info/sw.nokia.com/id/4284ae69-d37a-4319-bdf0-d4acdab39700/Sensor_plugin_S60_3rd_ed.exe.html

Thanks G.

Hi Glen,

Thanks for the link v1.2 did use that plugin, however it broke the N95 version, see the comments above from Cyke64 etc.

For me to support the 5500 I'd have to branch the code and maintain two separate version which is a whole lot of hassle.

If there is a new version of the sensor API that supports both 5500 and N95 and future phones then I'll make a new single release.

Cheers

Graham

Can anyone help Graham out here?

I've seen alot of you have posted elsewhere whilst im looking for something to help him but i dont really know what im looking for!

Please need 5500 version!!!

Many Thanks G.

the new version not work in my n95 when i try to open the apps doesn't open

Hi Glen...
Sadly the post of Tommy "Who can turn Nokia 5500 into a Star Wars Light Saber" had become "Who can turn Nokia N95 into a Star Wars Light Saber"!!
It's sad but that phone has much more fans than our poor 5500... :(
By the way, there's a python script which does nearly the same as Graham program. Visit:
noselodigasalolo.blogspot.com
(and search for the nokia 5500 lightsaber there!)

Good work anyway Graham!
Keep on like this!
Dario

Hi Dario

Thanks for the link.

Had found that blog already and only just made sense of it!

Im new to all this so need to know where to put the files from the download!

Thanks G.

Hi Glen!
It's a bit more complex than simply intalling a .sis file but not impossible...Firstly you need to install the python interperter and the script shell (search "pys60" on google to find the 2 files you need to install; "PythonforS60_1_4_1_3rdEd.sis" and " PythonScriptShell_1_4_1_3rdEd.sis"). Then u need the python extension to be able to use the raw data from the accelerometer (search pyextaccel on google and you will find jespern's page where you can download the extension). Third you need the script from noselodigasalolo@blogspot.com (which you already have! ;))
Put the script in the folder E://python
Run the python (you'll fine the icon of the software somewhere in your phone menu) and then run the script!
And you have something similar to a LightSaber...still very simple movement recognition and only two sounds are used to reproduce the lightsaber effects + the background sound...I'm trying to improve it and I added some vibrations when the "hit sound" is played but it's still very very simple...
Hope it helped you!
Bye

Hey Dario

Had worked most of that out from the spanish site and the links on it! (tutorial site is good!)

Didnt know about the accelorometer extension so thanks for that!

Got it working (not bad for a rookie eh?)

Will look into playing around with the script at some point!

Let me know how you get on with your version!

Thanks G.

Hello ,

@graham

BUGS for LightSaber 1.3 :

- LIGHT and not LIGTH must be displayed in the first screen :D
- opening slider bug : if you turn on your lightsaber with opening N95 slide and you closing slide before sound has finished to play lightsaber is always turn on !!! (not the correct behaviour it must be turned off !)

suggestion :
S60 3rd has a API for turning ON/OFF/blink screen and keyboard with fading lights !

features :
turn screen ON infinitely
turn screen OFF infinitely
blink screen
light ON lower keyboard (= numeric keys)
light ON lower keyboard
blink lower keyboard
light OF upper keyboard (= red key , green key etc.)
light OF upper keyboard
blink upper keyboard

It would be great to add this to LightSaber 1.4
You could have all info and example (It works great on my N95)

Keep up the good work
I'm waiting for 1.4 :)

Cyke64

Hello ,

@graham

BUGS for LightSaber 1.3 :

- LIGHT and not LIGTH must be displayed in the first screen :D
- opening slider bug : if you turn on your lightsaber with opening N95 slide and you closing slide before sound has finished to play lightsaber is always turn on !!! (not the correct behaviour it must be turned off !)

suggestion :
S60 3rd has a API for turning ON/OFF/blink screen and keyboard with fading lights !

features :
turn screen ON infinitely
turn screen OFF infinitely
blink screen
light ON lower keyboard (= numeric keys)
light ON lower keyboard
blink lower keyboard
light OF upper keyboard (= red key , green key etc.)
light OF upper keyboard
blink upper keyboard

It would be great to add this to LightSaber 1.4
You could have all info and example (It works great on my N95)

Keep up the good work
I'm waiting for 1.4 :)

Cyke64

Hello ,

@graham

BUGS for LightSaber 1.3 :

- LIGHT and not LIGTH must be displayed in the first screen :D
- opening slider bug : if you turn on your lightsaber with opening N95 slide and you closing slide before sound has finished to play lightsaber is always turn on !!! (not the correct behaviour it must be turned off !)

suggestion :
S60 3rd has a API for turning ON/OFF/blink screen and keyboard with fading lights !

features :
turn screen ON infinitely
turn screen OFF infinitely
blink screen
light ON lower keyboard (= numeric keys)
light ON lower keyboard
blink lower keyboard
light OF upper keyboard (= red key , green key etc.)
light OF upper keyboard
blink upper keyboard

It would be great to add this to LightSaber 1.4
You could have all info and example (It works great on my N95)

Keep up the good work
I'm waiting for 1.4 :)

Cyke64

To Graham

Read your post on aas and didnt want to sign up to another blog so i thought id post here!

I found them while looking for new sound to put in the 5500 version im playing with!

http://www.theforce.net/fanfilms/postproduction/soundfx/soundfx03.asp

Hope they help!

Thanks G.

mybe this will help for N5500 if u're using python...

Instead of just passing on raised events, event filtering is also supported. Two examples of using
an event filter are also provided by the sensor module, namely the class OrientationEventFilter
and RotEventFilter. Both filters can be used to raise events when the device’s orientation changes
(e.g. when it’s turned to the right). The support is device dependent, e.g. Nokia 5500 supports
OrientationEventFilter and Nokia N95 supports RotEventFilter

This is taken from documentation in PythonForS60_1_4_1_doc.pdf

to wodak:
Event filter is not interesting with LightSaber because interesting data is X,Y,Z not tilt orientation !!!
N95 with firmware 5500 is supporting sensor module : tilt ; X,Z,Z axes and tapping !

Now information is clear !

Cyke64

to wodak:
N95 with firmware

Cyke64

Umm, the pyextaccel does not seem to want to install, it moans about an expired certificate. What could be the problem?

Just a short message to say thankyou to Graham for lightening up our average days at work :-)

And I wanted to throw in a new idea, sorry if you consider it off topic: Based on the Light Sabre it should probably not be very difficult to make a guitar application...? N95 Air Guitar!!! How about that!? I think that would be a really cool application for the N95. One chord for each key, different sound effects for different movements and so on. You fix?

New version V1.4

Details here:

http://graho.wordpress.com/

Cheers

Graham

Btw: cool idea about the air guitar :) ...

Just installed the new LightSabre, getting better every day :-D
About the air guitar, I posted the idea to Nokia's 3rd party application wishlist. They moved it to S60 feature wishlist, whatever that means. Maybe they'll include it into the firmware? That would be cool! But I guess you are pretty close to make this app too, if you want to. I just can't wait to hook the phone up to the big amplifier and make some real noise :-D

@noob:

What do you want to make with pyextaccel ?
Which phone do you use ? If you use N95 don't use pyextaccel (it's only limited to Rot sensor)
If you use N95 with firmware aXYZ module
N95 with firmware = 20.0.015 --> sensor module with PyS60 1.4.1
5500 --> sensor module with PyS60 1.4.1

Cyke64

I'm following dario's instructions to get the 5500 light sabre script working. And since I really don't have that much experience, I'm just following instructions :D So, another stupid question..How do I use (register?) the (obviously inbuilt into PyS60 1.4.1) sensor module. I can't find _sensod.pyd file in my c:\resource. If it has anything to do with this..?

I have been wanting to have a lightsabre application for my phone as long as I've had it, almost a year now, so bear with me.. And thanks for the advice so far!

The new version works on 5500 but not with accelerometer only number buttons but its still fun!!

Good work Graham!

Thanks G.

@noob: to dodge the problem with the expired certificate put the date of the phone 1 year back before installing pyextaccel!

At the moment the only version of lightsaber working on 5500 is the "noselodigasalolo-lightsaber".
The Graham version starts up but then the program fails to fetch the data from the accelerometer so, as Glen says, you can only hear the background sound, see the red/green flashing screen, adjust volume and you have to press the buttons to play the "tishes" sounds (no movement recognition working)....I have read on noselodigasalolo.blogspot.com that the developer of the lightsaber-script was able to run also Graham lioghtsaber v1.2 on his 5500...I would like to ask him how he did it but I have firewall restriction and I can't post on blogs like *.blogspot.com....if anyone knows how to do it is welcome here!

Hey cyke64, you seems to be well skilled in this accelerometer stuff...

sensor.pyd is not accessible in 3rd phone it's hidden in c:\sys\bin folder !
And sensor.py is in c:\ressource. But the Python saber doesn't use sensor module but Pyextaccel as Dario told you !

INSTALLATION
Install Python 1.4.1
Install PythonShell 1.4.1
Now put your phone date 1 year before
Install pyextaccel
Now put the right date again
Install saber script to e:\python

RUNNING
Launch PythonShell with the Python icon in the menu.
Options->Run script

@dario : The author has installed the Graham LightSaber 1.2 on phone memory but he didn't say if it works really or if makes only hums ...

BR
Cyke64

Sweet, it works now, thanks for the Sabre4Dummies instructions :D

@noob :
GREAT !
Now you can finally enjoy your NokiaSabre !
Are you happy ?

Cyke64

Cyke64: Yes, pretty happy, but the it is not that responsive, I may hear clash sounds while the phone is not moved at all or it may take some time to hear the whoosh sound. :D Better than nothing, though..

Yes this version is probably not the best...the sounds that you can hear are a "background collage" sound named fondo_largo. This collage was done because the official background sound was too short and everytime the program loads the sound it takes some time to do it resulting in a silence gap between two consecutive sounds. The delay in palying the woooshes is due to the audio plugin which probably does not support sound mixing.

hi Grayham
Just stumbled across this thread toinight. Its great to track the development of an idea in such a way.
Great stuff! Keep up the good work and may the force be with you!!
Cheers
Bob

how do i get the lightsaber working on 5500? plz tell me how to do. i've installed python and i can start it on my phone but how to do then? shall i start the lightshaber file in pythone or what? i dont understand how to do plz help me)=. i followed darios instruktions but i didnt really understand how to do=/

@defeat : follow sabre4dummies instruction below !

Cyke64

@Defeat:
If you've followed my instructions above then you have all the necessary stuff to be a jedi!
I mean:
- python interpreter
- python shell
- pyextaccel extension
installed on your 5500.
You should have saved the lightsaber script from noselodigasalolo and all the files which come with it(3 .wav files and 2 .png files for character displaying)in E://python/
Now launch python (you will find the icon of the program in your "Favourite" folder)and run the script lightsaber by pressing left softkey.
That's all!
The script does not start automatically, you have to activate it by pressing again the left softkey.

I've tried to elaborate the script a little but, since I'm not very skilled in python programming, I had only translated to italian and improved just a little the graphic of the script (nothing really interesting).
I tried to insert some more sounds (by now it only hastwo tishes sounds and a background sound)but I only get errors...do someone have tried out something new?!?

New Features:

* Vibration support with Sabre Tingle ™
* Set up your sabre technology ™ including
o Set Volume
o Set Sensitiviy (from 8 (little movement) to 120 (fling across room for swing)
o Set Vibration On / Off
o Set Hit Detection ( Auto detects strong movement as hit , Random , causes random hit effect slightly more responsive)
o Set Sabre Colour (Green, Red , Yellow, Blue, Magenta, Cyan, Orange);
* Setting are now saved.

http://graho.wordpress.com/

New Features:

* Vibration support with Sabre Tingle ™
* Set up your sabre technology ™ including
o Set Volume
o Set Sensitiviy (from 8 (little movement) to 120 (fling across room for swing)
o Set Vibration On / Off
o Set Hit Detection ( Auto detects strong movement as hit , Random , causes random hit effect slightly more responsive)
o Set Sabre Colour (Green, Red , Yellow, Blue, Magenta, Cyan, Orange);
* Setting are now saved.

http://graho.wordpress.com/

New Features:

* Vibration support with Sabre Tingle ™
* Set up your sabre technology ™ including
o Set Volume
o Set Sensitiviy (from 8 (little movement) to 120 (fling across room for swing)
o Set Vibration On / Off
o Set Hit Detection ( Auto detects strong movement as hit , Random , causes random hit effect slightly more responsive)
o Set Sabre Colour (Green, Red , Yellow, Blue, Magenta, Cyan, Orange);
* Setting are now saved.

http://graho.wordpress.com/

In honour of the original title of this blog, I released a beta version of V1.5 to support the Nokia 5500. I've no way of testing it so hopefully it works :)

http://graho.wordpress.com/

/Graham

It works!!

A few little bugs though!

sensitivity its to high even on lowest setting.

latency between hum and swing/hit sound.

Auto just gives hit sound.

Random just gives swing sound.

Other than that works great.

Nice one Graham.

Thanks G.

Thanks Glen , on N95 there is virtually no lag between swing and sound, the setting is badly worded and min is the most sensitive 8 , have you tried that?

Annoyingly I don't have a 5500 so it's going to be virtually impossible for me to fix in :(, anyway hope it's good enough.

/Graham

Hi Glen
try to switch off the vibration and put sensitivity to 120...it works perfectly like this!
Yeah there's a bit of delay/latency but it's just fun!(the 5500 CPU isn't that fast as the N95 one!)
@Graham: have u read my commment in your blog? WWhat do you think about the open/close slider ssuggestion that I made?
Anyway...great work!

I think the sensor in my phone broken as im jus getting sounds without moving it!!! :)

will try it on a different one and see if it works better!

all things considered very good work graham!

Our wishes have been fulfilled!!

Thanks G.

Hi ,
I have been reading this comments fo quite while waiting for usable version of the app for 5500.

On my 5500 I get same result as Glen.
The sound is discontinuos and it makes "clash" sound without moving it.

Anyway, thanks for your work Graham:-)

Jirka
(Sorry for my english)

@Glen and Jirka:
just put the sensitivity to the max value (120) and deactivate the vibration (cause the vibration itself is felt by the accelerometer sensor.
Now start the lightsaber and put your phone on the table. You'll hear the background noise and no tishes or clashes or vrummms at all. The problem is that the sensor is really sensitive and just grabbing the phone and lifting it from the table will eventually cause a tish or a clash sound.
...The app isn't bad at all but just need a little bit of "tuning"...:)

AWESOME! Works great thanks for all your work Graham you're a star!