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Hey Eric, can you make a list of the Java applications you use and ask your new readers to list what applications they use too?

Thanks.

Where are you based out of by the way?

Welcome to the S60 Blogs Java guys!

MGMaps is probably my favorite Java application.
http://www.mgmaps.com

I have a collection of open sourced Java ME applications you might be interested in:

http://ngphone.com/j2me/opensource

because when you start creating a mobile java application you discover also that there is as most different versions of java than phone models, dozens of screen sizes, music api, etc... you discover that nokias's phones doesn't have the same key mapping than sonyericsson's, not talking about the others... you are alone not a team of 20 developpers... you need to sleep mode than 4 hours... and you want to spend time playing sudoku too ;-)

Fragmentation is an issue that is affecting not only open source development but also the commercial mobile java development as well. S60 java is actively seeking to resolve issues but unfortunately it grew to be a harder problem to resolve. Really colorful definition of the fragmentation though :)

Here is a few J2ME applications. They are not open source but freeware.

http://www.web2mobi.net/downloads.html

The reason (IMHO) that there are _way_ fewer mobile java apps is that the mobile java class libraries are so different to a standard J2SE.

Now, ok, when the phones were very limited then I understand the whole thing doesn't fit; but there is NO EXCUSE for not having a proper JVM on a phone like the E90! The 9500 managed to have a proper JVM (v1.3), and I ran standard open source projects on it without any issues - so when I 'upgraded' to a E90 I was very very very very disappointed to find only MIDP...

The mobile extra JSRs such as SIP and BT are great; but please, lets have a J2SE environment to for them...

just my 2c....

E90 is a very capable device and it can handle a more advanced java configuration but not all S60 devices are equal.
I am not sure about creating configurations that will work with a limited number of devices. Such configurations usually mean further fragmenting.

It might be a very capable device in some ways, but in others it is LESS able that the 9500 its supposed to replace! (and yes, I do have both).

In particular, I'm sure that like the 9500 it could easily run a J2SE JVM, but instead it has this crippled J2ME thing....

While I'm moaning, its handling of the IP network connection doesn't seem as good - running 2 apps using the same IP connection is very unstable; whereas the 9500 managed it no problem.

Please, lets see a J2SE (1.4 is fine) for S60!