January 10, 2007 Copying Text Posted by Peter Harbeson at 10:59 AM | Categories: General

This is just a note in response to a comment by Thomas asking when we're going to enable copying text from web pages. I can't comment about anything unreleased. Or more accurately, I can do it exactly once, after which I'd be working on job applications instead of browser blog entries! ;-)

However, we do appreciate comments and suggestions, and they do get noticed around here! Another place to go to suggest things you'd like in your S60 is the Wish List.


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I understand that there might be some corporate issue, but I don't understand why Nokia would not allow copying text or images from browser pages, or just the page url, or allow to open links in a new window!
Please please this are basic usability features which turn a good browser into crap (no offense intended to developers).

Posted by: debernardis | September 29, 2007 08:09 AM

Hey Jake,

The browser is not actually loading the page twice; what you're seeing is deliberate and is known as our "double-tree" implementation.

Studies have shown on slow networks that users may come unsure about the status of the browser if content is not rendered in a reasonable timeframe. Like the progress bar, the purpose of the double-tree is to visually inform the user that the browser is well on the way to rendering the content.

So while fetching all of the required subresources (such as external style sheets, images or even other web pages) to fully display a web page, the browser engine temporarily shows an approximation of how the page will eventually look [*]. As you note, the effect is minimal with a quicker network connection (such as Wifi), and more noticeable with a slower connection speed.

An option to turn off double-tree could indeed be possible, thanks for the feedback! Hope that makes things a little clearer, please rest assured the browser doesn't download the content twice.

Cheers,
Bradley

ps - very handy blog, right now I'm using an E61 as well :-)

[*] If you're interested in a technical discussion on a related topics, see http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/hyatt/archives/2004_05.html and http://webkit.org/blog/?p=66

Posted by: Bradley Morrison | January 29, 2007 02:53 PM

A similar but much more urgent (I believe), if it has not been fixed in S60 3rd Edition Feature Pack 1 (wow that's a long name you guys use ;))
here it is:
The S60 Browser loads pages Twice! That is so annoying that it almost gets on my nerves (well, actually not but just wanted to emphasize my point, for people moving from other OSs this might really get them angry).
I have a Nokia E61 (great phone BTW, see my blog at www.jake61.wordpress.com ) and I use the browser a lot. When I used the Wifi the double loading is quick enough not to bother but when I use Data I notice the double loading much more painfully.

I hope you solve this issue and make the browser either have option of not showing anything/much until the entire page has loaded or inventing another (better) solution to this problem (at lwast for me it's a problem)

Ps: I'm planning to move to N95 so I really really hope it's better there

Posted by: Jake | January 29, 2007 03:14 AM

similar to this, i'd like to add a request to add the current url to the clipboard. Oftentimes I'm blogging from my e62 and would like to link to a specific page but i have to choose "send to", text, and then copy and paste from that text. It's a huge pain.

Posted by: rcadden | January 18, 2007 01:08 PM

Ooh... great ask. I was just thinking about this right now, while browsing (N80). Count me in as another request for this feature.

Posted by: Terence Reis | January 14, 2007 03:27 PM


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